I actually don't think I need different Mazel, and I sort of made up the whole Meshane Shaim part, but I changed the name of this blog because when type in Brooklyn North, you get something from an NYPD squad room. They haven't been too active since 2003, but I figured I'll rename mine. Since I can't really call the squad room of the 77th precinct and ask them to relinquish their name...
I noticed something today when I drove by Yeshiva of Spring Valley, the largest and most mainstream boys' yeshiva here North of Brooklyn. Many of the 8th graders were wearing white shirts. I know it isn't Rosh Chodesh, D-Day, or Yom Ha'atzmaut. Just a plain ol' Tuesday.
So are we becoming more influenced by the rules from the southern New Jersey Torah community??
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it happens here in south of north brooklyn too.
The white shirts are just one more manifestation of the new trend in Yeshivos today towards "what's on the outside" being much more important than what's on the inside. (I daresay Roshei Yeshiva today are more inclined to take in a "troubled boy" with lesser middos who dresses the part than a sincere ehrlich boy in a blue shirt...).
Post Script Warning: If I were you I'd watch any references I made to "that Southern NJ Torah community...". Them's fightin' words where I come from and I'd hate to see any rabbinical wrath visited upon you and yours.... ;)
woah, G6, that seems a bit harsh. I don't think that the policy is "as long as you are wearing white you can be a nasty blankety blank, looks are all that count"
midos are important to the yeshivos, and the two are not exclusive. I just don't get why 8th graders would want to dress that way. I find it boring, dreary, and so lemming-like.
my youngest son loves bright colors, including red and pink. And he would wear them in high school. This will be a problem....
I don't get why parents don't tell their CHILDREN, this is dress for a teenager, a bochur, or a father. not a child in elementary school.
It would be great if rebbeim told their talmidim, what you wear is not as important as how you act. But that is not the real belief of the yeshiva/bais yaakov system.
see one of my first posts about color in nature...
Also- fightin' words where you come from? WH?? whose wrath will I incur?
I don't think it's harsh at all! Of course middos count, but I honestly feel that nowadays the look does take precedence.
And your son is the perfect example. You "don't get" why these boys would want to dress that way. You've taken a pretty hefty leap by assuming that they WANT to....
Why should it be a problem for him to wear color?
When did the "levush" become something we judged boys on? And we do judge!
Harry Maryles has expounded on this topic better than I ever could.
I encourage you to read his blog post:
http://haemtza.blogspot.com/2009/03/problem-with-frumkeit.html
P.S. The comment about "fightin' words" was somewhat tongue in cheek. (Hence the wink) Do you not recall what happened when the last person invoked the name of that community in his public remarks intimating that their derech may not in fact be the "be all and end all" for everyone??? Should I refresh your memory?
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